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Illustration from the Florentine Codex of the final steps in casting gold models; gold is melted in a furnace (left), a ladle of molten gold in the foreground (center) is going to be poured into an open mold, which was heated in a brazier to melt the wax (and keep the mold hot enough to allow gold to flow through the sprues and tiny channels), and the finished product is washed in an alum bath:
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Making a casting core from charcoal and potter's clay (right) and flattening out a wax sheet to coat it (left), Florentine Codex:
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Mexica serpent labret (lower lip ornament) with a movable tongue, as seen in the Metropolitan Museum:
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aztec society in particular turned up around 1800 years after rome did
other mesoamericans developed earlier, with olmecs actually being at a roman-ish level of development before rome itself was
the rest came later, however
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aztec society in particular turned up around 1800 years after rome did
other mesoamericans developed earlier, with olmecs actually being at a roman-ish level of development before rome itself was
the rest came later, however
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if you're referring to this, yeah, the new world was behind the old world due to little livestock, terrain, beast of burden, etc.
Comparison between Teotihuacan and Rome:
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Residences of Teotihuacan:
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Water and sustainable land use of Tikal, Guatemala:
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by the way the spanish refered to the Triple Alliance (Aztec Empire) as the Rome of the New World.
https://www.ioa.ucla.edu/press/altera-roma
 
it's funny because the europeans were literally tribal barbarians during roman society but their development accelerated so quickly that they became the dominant force in the world
 
it's funny because the europeans were literally tribal barbarians during roman society but their development accelerated so quickly that they became the dominant force in the world
depends on the kind of European. anyway, they were in an accelerated state of technological advancement in part of other peoples, such as the Chinese for gunpowder, paper, and compasses, Mesopotamia for the wheels, irrigation, and writing, and the indus valley for advanced city planning and sanitation, egypt for medicine and grand architectural projects, such as pyramids.

those civilizations had extensive contact, with only mesoamerica and the andes only having limited contact, aside from indirect trade.

the Europeans incorporated them into their societies and improved on such.
 
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depends on the kind of European. anyway, they were in an accelerated state of technological advancement in part of other peoples, such as the Chinese for gunpowder, paper, and compasses, Mesopotamia for the wheels, irrigation, and writing, and the indus valley for advanced city planning and sanitation, egypt for medicine and grand architectural projects, such as pyramids.

those civilizations had extensive contact, with only mesoamerica and the andes only having limited contact, aside from indirect trade.
yes, chinese people had "medicine", swords and guns and also bombs, which europeans used to thoroughly rape natives
the connected land likely made it possible to pretty much pick up where other societies left off once europeans stopped being barbarians (or in the case of china copy what they had)
 
What do you think about Tawatinsuyo?
i am not that knowledgeable when it comes to south american history, as i primarily focus on mesoamerican and aridoamerican history & cultures..

and a little bit of eastern woodland/great plains peoples & cultures.

however, from what i've gathered, it is a great empire that mesoamericans, and by extension the southwest amerindians had traded with.
the aztecs did not directly go to peru, but there was a trade route that spanned from mesoamerica to the andes.
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it's funny because the europeans were literally tribal barbarians during roman society but their development accelerated so quickly that they became the dominant force in the world
Development happened mostly after the the death of Rome left a huge power vacuum in Europe. Charlemagne pretty much set the foundations for Europe to become dominant by taking advantage of that by moving power away from the med and to western Europe.
 
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it's funny because the europeans were literally tribal barbarians during roman society but their development accelerated so quickly that they became the dominant force in the world
That’s normally how civilization works. At the end of a dying civilization, peripheral influence barbarians start to emulate the falling culture with a mix of admiration and hatred. These barbarians then use the civilizations old structures with their inherent indigenized customs. That new reindigenized/ancient culture synthesis leads to a new force upon the world. Civilization always arises with people considered barbaric or backwater for their time. Greeks during the Bronze Age, Germanics and Arabs during Rome, Russians/Turkics with Europe’s height or my argument Northern Meximutts and desert Indios with the American Empire (and formerly Mesoamerica).

This is the reason why every single former Bronze Age society is a disgusting rotted shithole full of docile biomass (besides China) despite having truly magnificent ruins. The weight of their dying cultures fully crushed their spirits permanently. I expect Europeans to be subhuman biomass 1000 years from now as well. This is the reason southern Europe is was less developed than northern until Amerimutts colonized Europe, and why Egypt, India, and Iraq are literal slums. The is a partial exception is ironically Mesoamerica and Andeoamerica (Mesoamerica more so though) because its civilization ended prematurely. Europe crushed all these former civilizations because they were already broken. Some new civilization will crush Europe for all the same reasons.
 
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