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[Goot]

Goot and Brapsil: the soysphere's most elite military pundits.

I mog him hard

 

[Keyed zaryan]

MAD doesn't mean you nuke everybody
It's a strategy of deterrance

Yeah deterrence by assuring mutual destruction. How do you do that without at least second strike capability? Also how do you assure that enough conventional weapons survive that you can destroy a country with them after getting nuked? In practice MAD means nukes.

 

[Goot]

Yeah deterrence by assuring mutual destruction. How do you do that without at least second strike capability? Also how do you assure that enough conventional weapons survive that you can destroy a country with them after getting nuked? In practice MAD means nukes.

There's a reason they're building missile complexes in the mountains like crazy

 

[Keyed zaryan]

There's a reason they're building missile complexes in the mountains like crazy

Yeah, but that's not really second strike capability. They could almost certainly be destroyed in the event of an all out nuclear attack. You pretty much need nuclear submarines for true MAD.

 

[Goot]

Yeah, but that's not really second strike capability. They could almost certainly be destroyed in the event of an all out nuclear attack. You pretty much need nuclear submarines for true MAD.

Iran is broke, they're choosing aysymettrical methods

 

[Keyed zaryan]

Iran is broke, they're choosing aysymettrical methods

Can you elaborate on what you mean there? What's asymmetrical MAD?

 

[Goot]

Can you elaborate on what you mean there? What's asymmetrical MAD?

Isreal

 

[Nikizno]

Aren't they turbo fucked from the bombs last year and the protests? I don't think they would be that sreal womang currently.

 

[Keyed zaryan]

Isreal

Marge? Can you explain how they could asymmetrically assure mutual destruction?

 

[Goot]

AFAIK the latest color revolition has already left the news cycle
They executed a lot of foregin collaborators so whatever the CIA mossad has may need some time to recover
I'm guessing primairly CIA resources as the nature of the protests were simmilar in nature to Ukraine maidan and protests in the USA

 

[Goot]

The USA is politically structured that the total flattening of Isreal is a strictly forbidden outcome

@Keyed zaryan

 

[Keyed zaryan]

@Keyed zaryan

Yes but you haven't explained how they're going to do it. Let's say that america and israel launch 1000 nukes on iran tomorrow. What do they do in this situation to ensure destruction of israel and america? America and russia (the only nations on earth that have achieved true MAD) both have a plan for a scenario like this, so it's a valid question.

 

[_account]

What's asymmetrical MAD?

Throwing poop at the opps

 

[Goot]

Yes but you haven't explained how they're going to do it. Let's say that america and israel launch 1000 nukes on iran tomorrow. What do they do in this situation to ensure destruction of israel and america? America and russia (the only nations on earth that have achieved true MAD) both have a plan for a scenario like this, so it's a valid question.

USA is adverse because doing something like that would put all other nuclear powers on edge and give them the "excuse" to emulate their nuclear attacks on their own targets

 

[Keyed zaryan]

USA is adverse because doing something like that would put all other nuclear powers on edge and give them the "excuse" to emulate their nuclear attacks on their own targets

Stop talking around the question. You said iran had proven MAD, now I'm asking you how they would in practice assure mutual destruction. With this logic everyone on earth has mad because actually nuking anyone would be a terrible idea and no one will do it.

 

[Goot]

Stop talking around the question. You said iran had proven MAD, now I'm asking you how they would in practice assure mutual destruction. With this logic everyone on earth has mad because actually nuking anyone would be a terrible idea and no one will do it.

That's becauae we differ in definition and continue to disagree about how the definition may be applied

 

[Keyed zaryan]

That's becauae we differ in definition and continue to disagree about how the definition may be applied

There is only one definition. MAD is a real defined concept in military theory.

 

[Goot]

With this logic everyone on earth has mad because actually nuking anyone would be a terrible idea and no one will do it.

Genuinely this
This is one of the two leading theories as to why nobody ever uses nukes (the second being that nukes don't exist)
You can nuke your non-nuclear enemies to dust and you can gain a lot from doing so, but now your nuclear adversary is nuking all their non-nuclear enemies (your puppets/allies) to dust which will probably fuck you up massively by proxy

 

[Goot]

military theory.

 

[Keyed zaryan]

Genuinely this
This is one of the two leading theories as to why nobody ever uses nukes (the being that nukes don't exist)
You can nuke your non-nuclear enemy to dust and you can gain a lot from doing so, but now your nuclear adversary is nuking all their non-nuclear enemies to dust which will probably f&!#k you up massively by proxy

noob "nukes don't exist" isn't a leading theory. We know they exist. The other one is the truth.